Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. If so, that means Cain and Abel could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel. Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. 8 Then GOD planted a garden in Eden, in the east. Could the person who was walking in the Garden have been the Angel of the Lord or the Pre-Incarnate Christ? Theologians have long wrestled with the very concept of being made in Gods image. So if this is accurate, then what Adam heard was the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, as indicated in the same translations mentioned above. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? But there is no need to make the text say something it doesnt. For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. Tell everyone with small kids! Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. It says, coats of skin. Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. . As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. To say that life was good in the Garden of Eden would be an understatement. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. Gen 2:16-17. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.". (NASB) Gen. 3:8. He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. Say, for example, that they werent expelled from the Garden until they were 60+ or 70+ (or older). These factors make Adam, and subsequently Eve who was taken out of the man Adam, uniquely designed to perceive the presence of God, and descern His will. You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. I think youve understood exactly what I was seeking to accomplish. I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. It is meant to point out to people that the text doesnt say what so many people have claimed that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Did Adam and Eve Walk with God in the Garden? Noah walked with God Genesis 6:9. 1991 - 2023 Eternal Perspective MinistriesAll Rights Reserved. they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the gardenThe divine Being appeared in the same manner as formerlyuttering the well-known tones of kindness, walking in some visible form (not running hastily, as one impelled by the influence of angry feelings). To use your example, it would be like if people repeatedly said, The Bible says Adam watched the stars every night while in the Garden. Even if he did do that, the Bible doesnt say that he did, and it would be worth correcting someone on that point. The Bible likens our righteousness to filthy rags. So, it is not a far stretch to suppose that God and Adam might have walked together in the Garden, if not regularly, else why would God have gone to the trouble to create a garden and put man into it, if not to have a direct relationship. After all, how old did they have to be to be a keeper of sheep and a tiller of the land? 15? But I dont think we need to have them walking with God in the garden to show how bad sin is. Regardless of whether you translate the disputed phrase as cool of the day or strong wind, the text still says that God was walking in the cool of the day / wind (of the day). God bless! Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. Even if this translation is accurate, which is debatable, it does not say that they walked with God. So it would not have taken long for Eve to conceive, yet Cain was not conceived until they were banished from the Garden. Who was Cain afraid of? Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? Maybe this is why pastors and teachers teach it this way (that God regularly walked with Adam and Eve), because they can see from the word study that this was a regular occurrence. So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. It is a special, peaceful garden oasis God created as a home for Adam and Eve (and maybe also Lilith) where their two jobs were to give animals names . Of course, since God is capable of making physical appearances, but we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. Thanks for the kind words. If we were to narrowly abide only what the text OUTRIGHT affirms of given things, then this inference would be patently erroneous or, at least, unreasonable. Hi Nucc, What does it mean for God to walk with them? The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. So what did they hear in the Garden? God told them to be fruitful and multiply. He was their friend. Not because I think Im right and feel holier than thou but it was just something burning in me saying NO. Yes, Adam and Eve were sinless, but this doesnt mean that Gods physical presence needed to be right where they were. "Until the cool of the day when the shadows flee away, Turn, my beloved, and be like a gazelle. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. I hope this helps. How do I know? What can we honestly infer from the scriptures? As my case shows and many of the comments here show, man created truth is powerful over our minds. Hi Tom, What does it even mean? The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. Hi Sam, 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. However, that story or statement being preached wont cause anyone to fall into sin. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. The answer is that it was the Word, who later became Jesus Christ, that walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. I to am searching regarding worship in OT times and wondered about Adam walking with God. Adam did hear Gods voice at another time. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. More than like, Cains wife was his sister, or possibly a niece. The first consequence of Adam and Eve's momentous decision to reject God's revelation was a . I looked in Genesis, Psalms and even searched for New Testament references. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. Either way, prior to sin there was not a fractured relationship between God and man, but there certainly is as a result of sin. Tim. Possible the sound he heard was uncharacteristically harsh & is why he was afraid. 1 They Could DECIDE Genesis 3:2-3. Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. I think for me it comes from the song In the Garden, it is a peaceful way to think God is walking with us. All these imply direct personal interaction, probably on more than one occasion. The problem with this scenario is that Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long. Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. Adam blamed the woman, the . 8 In the cool of the evening, the man and his wife heard the Lord God walking around in the garden. I clarified my statement about strong wind being a better translation to point out that there are scholars who make this claim, like J.J. Niehaus. He was with them when they were deceived by Satan. There are some who says He came in angelic forms throughout the Bible yes He did but thats through another likeness. Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. I too have always heard that God walked with Adam & Eve in the cool of the day every day. ( Genesis 3:13-15) When looking at Genesis 3:13-15, there is no direct indication that the serpent had legs, only that its curse would be "on your belly you shall go.". The Man came alivea living soul! Two things that they did see. If I am walkin* with you I would assume you are walking with me? There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. I have a problem with telling people that the Bible says they did this. Lord God (pre-incarnate Jesus Christ) was also the burning bush that app. But its an irrelevant point. However, God could have manifested himself as a human being, but this would not be the glorious spirit being that he actually is. You read that correctly, the Bible never states that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. Yes, they could have done this if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1). Your email address will not be published. IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. See my article, Was Jesus Married? First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. That is, Enoch and Noah lived faithful lives. Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. It is doubtful that God threw Adam into a confusing environment where he would be overwhelmed with the array of plants and animals. Theres no definitive proof, but the passages implication seems clear to me. The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. Adam's spiritual life, through fellowship with God, depended on Adam's respect for God's laws. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. Adam and Eve as well as other people born during the no-sin era. He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. Following Gods words to the T is one of the reasons why the law was fulfilled by Jesus and not by man. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. I think that would be fantastic. So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! They were placed in the Garden of Eden and given everything they needed: food, work, companionship, and fellowship with God as they walked with him in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8). It was the sound of God that Adam heard. Lastly, as scripture verifies scripture, we see the second Adam, known as Jesus Christ in regular and perpetual contact with the same God and Father. They hide among the trees. You cant see that god desires to walk with his people and expects rhem to walk with him? #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. It does not say that God drove Adam and Eve, or the man and the woman, out of the Garden of Eden. In a similar way, we are told in the New Testament to walk in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16). Like your parents can be in the house with you and not in the same room but you can clearly hear them in another part of the house. Beyond that, the Bible does not tell us about any communication between our first parents and God until after the fall. Regardless, my point is that Adam was familiar enough to recognized it was God. I dont believe I said anywhere in the post or in the comments that the coats of skin were made from animals, although I certainly believe this is easily the most logical conclusion. You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. On the sixth day of Creation, God created 'man' in the form of Adam, moulding him from 'the dust of the ground' (Genesis 2:7), breathing the breath of life into Adam's nostrils. I think all conservative Christians would agree that this happened. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. Ive heard far too many people claim, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the day. Thats simply false. The Lord could speak from His throne and these actions could be performed just as easily as if He had manifested in the garden to perform the actions. 16 I also will do this unto you I will appoint unto you terror consumption burning ague that shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart and you shall sow your seed in vain your enemies shall eat it17 and I will set my face against you 18 and if you still dont listen to Mei will punish you 7 times more for your sins please not that it is sin that seperates man from god. This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. When the shadows flee away, I will go my way to the mountain of myrrh. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . 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