T WOODS: You know, he was ripping and running with the gangs. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. So what - one of the things that I've really taken away from being in prison is that I've gotten an incredible glimpse into what it means to be a man and what men deal with. She co-created the podcast with Woods and has co-hosted and co-produced it with him. Content Creator @CoinAcademy; Pres. Why we living like we don't care - because this is somehow how we grew up and how - since as early teenager we've been living in the streets, in the gangs. Earlonne Woods, co-host of the popular prison podcast Ear Hustle, had his sentence commuted by California Gov. So on December 7, 1994, I murdered my ex-girlfriend, the mother of my now-25-year-old daughter. You feel invincible in some ways. [6] While in San Quentin, Woods was unpaid for his work on Ear Hustle, though fans would often send him money. And I'm not even talking about physically intimate, but just emotionally intimate is against regulations. ERIN: I don't - I don't know. Therese Madden directed today's show. GROSS: Yeah. So even though I'm hearing stuff and then I'm talking to him, he playing - he downplaying it. So I think as far as African-American culture in prison, I don't think nobody really cares why you're in prison. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor: This Is Ear Hustle Some might say that Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods were destined to meet. And I keep thinking, like, a week from now, Earlonne and I could be having dinner outside the prison together (laughter). NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. You know what I mean? Woods learned of his commutation the day before Thanksgiving. [2], Woods first went to prison at 17 for two concurrent convictions of kidnapping and robbing a drug dealer, and was released at 23. And your brother is still in San Quentin. [5], Prior to Ear Hustle, Poor ran a photography class at the prison during which one of her students proposed making a documentary. His net worth is estimated to be $657,586. And so I want to play the part where you return to ask him that difficult question. I'd rather not know. And it's the way people would hope other people think that, hey, OK, I've done my time. E WOODS: Yeah, so that's cool. E WOODS: Well, I mean, it's cool, you know? That stuff carries 17 years. WOODSON: I used to work for the captain at CIW in the program office. Presently, Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his parents. Woods never used the drug, though became addicted to the money and lifestyle selling it provided. Brown cited Woods' leadership in . But we knew that, you know, it's traditional for the governor to do these commutations right before Thanksgiving. I think I was probably like eight years old when it came to me that one day I have to die. Earlonne Woods is co-creator, co-producer and co-host of Ear Hustle from Radiotopia. I pretty much raised Tyler from '95 to '97, when I got arrested. And I think it would help demystify a lot of the assumptions that people have about who's in prison and who should be there. I get to see how they express love and tenderness and fear and frustration and how they posture and what's behind that. GROSS: And Nigel, just as a person who's constantly interacting with inmates at San Quentin, do you want to know what they're incarcerated for, what crime they were convicted of? Tyra got arrested first for kidnap and robbery. WOODSON: They told me that my son was murdered - well, killed. So here's Nigel Poor, co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle. I was questioning everything. I enjoy every second of every day. Earlonne Woods prefers to keep his personal life private, so he has not disclosed any information about his marital status. , after serving 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. But apparently it's fine - like, if you fall in love, the prisoner and the volunteer fall in love, that's fine as long as the volunteer or the staff person is no longer going to be working there in any capacity. So I think I did what, pretty much, my community did that was around me. Through his podcast, [Woods] has shared meaningful stories from those inside prison.. Let me see why you're here. Earlonne, I want to ask you about the final podcast you recorded in San Quentin, which was largely about your older brother, Trevor, and your nephew, Tyler. In 2018, California governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence, citing Ear Hustle as a significant contributor to his reformation as an American citizen. In November 2018, Woods' sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. After California Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence last month, Woods reflects on. And, like a lot of inmates, he's been thinking about this moment for a long time. In March 2016, the Public Radio Exchange's Radiotopia network put out a call for new podcast ideas via an initiative called Podquest, with funding from the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. So I still had a 17-year-old mentality. But after you recorded that interview, you found out something about him and decided, like, you could not play that interview unless you asked him another question. She started going to San Quentin to volunteer teaching photography. And you may be incarcerated 15, 20 years. NIGEL POOR: You know, E, you've been in prison 20 years. And on their way back to the auntie's house, they were pulled over by Long Beach Police Department - two officers. He commuted my sentence to be released forthwith, immediately, right now, its time to go, time to walk out that gate, he added, laughing. On his release from San Quentin State Prison, Woods was hired full time to continue the work started inside but also adding reentry stories. POOR: Well, let me ask you this - do you feel like we're being unfair trying to make you do this? While incarcerated at California State Prison, Centinela, Woods saw a documentary about the film school at San Quentin State Prison, and applied to transfer to that prison. And it was one of the restore justice symposiums. And so when people listen to this story, that's what I want them to take away, that here's this person who is in a difficult situation. I wouldn't spend time in a place that made me uncomfortable or I didn't like. They searched Tyler, and then they ran his name. Earlonne Woods (@earlonnewoods) Instagram photos and videos earlonnewoods Follow 225 posts 24.1K followers 931 following Earlonne Woods Public figure Award winning Co-Creator + Co-Host, @earhustlesq . Once the details concerning Earlonne's marital status are available we shall update. Im thinking about my mama, shes 70. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. So you'll never get the opportunity to be in front of people to present the person that you are today. And I think - I didn't - I didn't become accustomed to the lifestyle of working or having a job, you know? While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College and completed many vocational trade programs. Tyra got arrested first for kidnap and robbery, and she was sentenced to 17 years. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). Elevated Entertainment LLC; Host: Hard in the Paint w/Aaron Showtime Taylor. Woods was unaware his two convictions as a juvenile counted as two 'strikes', which made his conviction at 25 count as his third under California's three strikes law. Co-produced by inmates Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams . In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. Jerry Brown (D) has commuted the prison sentence of Earlonne Woods, whose hit podcast Ear Hustle explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. I took their security from them to even walk out the house and feel safe, you know? They fell in love just like anyone else would. But I took way more from that person than $1. You know, he was - you know, I even - I'm talking to him all the time. And I just said, when you come back, you're going to be almost a free man. Once the details concerning Earlonnes marital status are available we shall update. And that was one of the things that I appreciated about Jerry Brown - especially everything he said in that clip that you played is the way people inside think. "Ear Hustle" features stories from prison told by prisoners - their intimate, honest conversations about family visits, cellmates, solitary confinement - conversations like this one between Earlonne Woods and his co-host Nigel Poor, who's not an inmate. GROSS: That people can change and that you should look at the person and not just the crime - that you'd still be in prison, I mean? And so I found out what you're in prison for. I'm not doing this. In November 2018, Woods' sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. I don't know if it's a lake. Earlonnes average salary is $61,244 per year. E WOODS: And she even got mad at me the other day E WOODS: 'Cause I left dinner with everyone, and I went to the movies by myself to go see "Vice" (laughter). Earlonne Woods was born and raised in South Central Los Angeles. So we do stories about life inside prison. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And I always wore black. But you may have the African-Americans who go to prison and they're at certain places and you don't get that question. Earlonne became busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. Earlonne Woods was released from San Quentin in November after his sentence was commuted by Governor Jerry Brown. POOR: So one of the things is that I really believe that people change. Ear Hustle co-hosted by Woods and Nigel Poor, an artist and volunteer at San Quentin interviews men in the prison about their lives there. Earlonne Woods was born in the United States in 1972. And I have a lot of friends that's in prison that has 200 years, 300 years to life for maybe attempted second-degree robbery. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. It mentally puts you in a whole different space. E WOODS: It is - they see something that I can't see. And when you're in that moment, I think it's more of crime to people in society that commit crime. [16] In 2021, Woods and Poor co-authored the book This Is Ear Hustle. I felt like in Earlonne I found a true professional colleague. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle. I don't think I have the vision to see it. And it was very hard for that to not change the way I felt about him. GROSS: Nigel, when you first started volunteering in San Quentin, what were some of the things you had to deal with as a woman teaching in a prison of men? Yes, he was quiet, but he was always present. I hope you'll join us. They're very polite. "[12] Woods later traveled to thank Brown and interview him for the podcast. E WOODS: I, personally, would like to eradicate California's three strikes law because I think that there's a lot of people that's sentenced under this law, which everybody thinks is 25 to life. POOR: I don't ask unless it comes up as part of the story. And I believe, personally, that that will ease overcrowding because there are a lot of people in prison that deserve to be out. It's about a writer whose friend and former mentor kills himself. When he was 15, he committed his first robbery alongside his brother, who had transitioned from selling drugs to robbing drug dealers. But the things that you do in your past do add dimension to who you are in this moment. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. E WOODS: (Laughter) Not no time soon, no. He received a sentence of 31-years-to-life. You're sitting across from law enforcement. I used to sit there and ask God, "Like, why am I living if I have to die?" And I think at that age I was questioning God. So you're interviewing a prisoner who - he and one of the volunteers fell in love, and so she stopped working there in any capacity, and they got married. So what - what were the first communications like in which you tried to see, but is he a good interviewer? Earlonne Woods is a popular American podcaster. In April 1989, a drive-by shooting in San Francisco, CA, left at least 11 people injured, and 2 people dead. Earlonne is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). [12][13][14] Since his commutation, Woods has become involved in campaigns to repeal California's three strikes laws. [1][10] As of Season 4, Woods continues to make the podcast from outside prison, while Rahsaan "New York" Thomas was announced as a new co-host for recordings done inside San Quentin. And as they questioned the driver, the passenger officer seen tattoos and Tyler's face and started questioning him, made him get out the car. Their tenth season finished airing in December 2022. His mother was a postal worker and his father was an unemployed alcoholic, who Woods described as violent and distant. The rest of it is just an enhancement. GROSS: So something I found really interesting is that the group that is multicultural and not segregated by race or ethnicity is the group that's into, like - the nerds, the group that are into, like, sci-fi fantasy and stuff like that. Instead of me representing it, Earlonne and I can represent it together. E WOODS: So I'll give you example. Woods and Poor cohost the show while Williams does the show's sound design, working in San Quentin's media lab to record music and effects, including foley work. You know, when I was out for the two years 10 months, I raised Tyler, you know? He went up there. They're the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin about their daily lives and their personal stories. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. And Nigel is also a professor of photography at California State University. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California Three Strikes Law, the statute under . He has the age of 49. Woods was raised in South Los Angeles with his parents and his older brother Trevor. Jerry Brown is releasing Woods from San Quentin State Prison after two decades behind bars. What keeps your hopes up? Others are typical and comfortable, never rising to celebrity status but supplying its partners with a contented existence. And he understood how to diffuse a situation. This piece has been updated with news of Woods hiring onto the podcast team. GROSS: Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, my guest will be writer Sigrid Nunez. It's something. But if we could just talk about it and come to some understanding about what's our responsibility, what's your responsibility? Why didn't you invite me (laughter)? And I got into this group. Nigel is a professor of photography at Cal State. You were OK with that? You know, at that particular moment, in that mindset - like today, am I OK with that? And they shot at Tyler, like, 40-something times. Accuracy and availability may vary. And, Nigel and Earlonne, I want to wish you good luck with the retooled version of Ear Hustle now that Earlonne is out. Earlonne Woods: Number one. His sentence was commuted yesterday. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. Earlonne Woods was born and raised in South Central Los Angeles. And they - and I received 31 years to life. Due to the complex and time-consuming bureaucratic challenges associated with unusual prison activities, she decided that audio would be easier to manage than video. He understood human nature. "Ear Hustle" the phrase is slang for eavesdropping is a collaboration between Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both prisoners at San Quentin, and Nigel Poor, a Bay Area visual artist who teaches photography classes at the prison. And I - I observed Earlonne a lot. Like, my mother used to bring him. I'm doing that. POOR: I'm so glad you asked about this. SHAPIRO: Well, yesterday, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence. And you start thinking differently, you know? You have to wear the same clothes all the time. When he was nine, Woods lifted up a faulty railroad crossing gate to allow cars to pass. And it really wasn't until I got into the healing circle that I understood what it was like to be a survivor of crime because in these circles, you're sitting across from crime victims. I'd still be sitting in San Quentin in a cell with my brother. E WOODS: Well, me growing up the way I grew up, I grew up in a lifestyle where I was young when I got into selling drugs, and I was - I was real young. [7] They recruited fellow inmates Antwan Williams as the show's sound designer,[8] and submitted their idea for a podcast to a contest hosted by Radiotopia. Jerry Brown commuted his 31-years-to-life . And as time went on, as years went on, I stuck to my guns. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR, and if you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor. He is a podcast host correspondent. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. But very quickly, when we started talking about photography - I was teaching a history of photography class - that kind of melted away. You're sitting across from politicians. And so to me, that meant he was a very good observer. The sound was recorded because he's the co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with San Quentin inmates talking about daily life there, things like living with a cellmate in a tiny cell, what it's like to be in solitary confinement, the heartbreak of being a parent separated from your child, how everything inside is separated by race and so on. [11], In November 2018, then California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Woods' sentence, saying he had "clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime" and that "he has set a positive example for his peers and, through his podcast, has shared meaningful stories from those inside prison. E WOODS: He got a hell of a collection of vinyl. It was like a light switch. We know because they did a whole episode on getting parole. I'm Terry Gross. They grow up literally., In Browns letter announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime., He has set a positive example, Brown wrote. So I'm not thinking that it's serious as much as I'm hearing. Earlonne Woods, Nigel Poor, welcome to FRESH AIR. They dont stay the same people that they were when they committed their crime. So I'm going to enjoy. This is FRESH AIR. Earlonne is of white ethnicity and American nationality. You know, he calls me. HuffPost visited Woods at San Quentin earlier this year to discuss why he created the podcast. Your nephew, his son, Tyler, was born in 1994. [7] Woods relocated to Oakland, California after his release, and was hired full-time as a producer and co-host of Ear Hustle. I don't know. Earlonne Woods, co-host of the popular prison podcast Ear Hustle, had his sentence commuted by California Gov. They had left the auntie's house. As of now, he works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. And a chase pursued. Earlonne, congratulations on life outside of prison. But then someone will research you and be like, did they just feed me a bunch of bull [expletive]. GROSS: And that was because - you got such a long sentence because one crime had you convicted on two counts, so that counted as two strikes. So it be at prison, I'm going to enjoy my day every day because at the end of the day, this is all I got, you know? I'm not doing this. It's a job. GROSS: So Tyler's father, your brother, is still in San Quentin during the final year that you were in San Quentin. And I was - yeah, I was definitely nervous. POOR: Earlonne described himself, and I described myself. Those are my partners. He had just became a paramedic or something. POOR: OK. And you really get a better understanding of your impact that you've personally had on people in society. I'm not doing that. So I'm trying to like - I'm trying to partner with you here. I'm pretty shy. Did you give him a hug? Yes, he can come to my house. EARLONNE WOODS: Well, I just keep getting up every morning, you know, thankful that I have another day, thankful that I'm alive, you know? His net worth is estimated to be $657,586. Bernard Antwi Boasiako, Lana Wolf, Eric Marcus, Robert Marawa, Who is Redmond ONeal? E WOODS: I like my colors bright these days. No, and I laugh because had Governor Brown probably not been the governor, I would still have 10 years of my sentence left. And so that's the point that I'm struck by - that human beings in a moment can do something with devastating consequences. Earlonne Woods co-hosted the podcast Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. Wake up to the day's most important news. And when I went in the second time, my friend Furman Little (ph) was killed the night we were arrested. POOR: What are some of the things you think about when you fantasize about your life when you're out? When I called my mother, she told me this, right? I got out, stayed out two years, 10 months and found myself back in jail for attempted second-degree robbery. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. Our senior producer today is Roberta Shorrock. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods had to leave the media lab to take the call. [4] Its first season began on June 14, 2017. Along with Nigel Poor, he is a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX. Namcy Wong. Jerry Brown. California Gov. I don't know what tomorrow brings, but I know what's happening today and right now. [13], The term "ear hustle" is prison slang for eavesdropping. So I've technically only been free 20 years in my life, and, since I was 17, I've been free maybe three years all together. He and Nigel are also the authors of This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book that was inspired by the podcast and released by Crown/Random House. In an op-ed for the Los Angeles Times, Lexi Mainland wrote "The runaway hit Ear Hustle never takes a broad look at criminal justice policy or employs Voice of God narration. Our associate producer for digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. That was something that was volunteered to me. And then I saw him in this awesome, orange T-shirt that had some brown in it. Woods was serving a 31-years-to-life sentence for attempted 2nd degree robbery due to a three-strikes law before having his sentence commuted in 2018. GROSS: Earlonne, how did you learn how to keep your calm and live in the kind of confined situation you were in during the more than two decades that you were incarcerated? Earlonne was an inmate as well as a host. Redmond O'Neal is the son of American actor Ryan O'Neal and Farah Fawcett (an America. 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