And it is outrageous that the HR person is gossiping about educational levels in the break room, even without the comment in the letter that shes done the same about other topics. Where I have to rush to complete a file same day, I try to work on a different file if I can for 1/2 an hour and then recheck it. People mocked me too. Tbc, because the choice to do so should be the students, not because its bad to disclose. 3) Make sure you put a fear of loss in them, that we are only hiring a few people. Which is why he is a former police officer. Also search "Cydcor" they are a branch of those. The little bit I read was generic enough that I can only assume that he re-used a letter he had originally written for a male student. They are rhinos out for financial indepedence doing the things no one wants to do so that they can be filthy rich and have great lives.#8 Yes! Second the administrator is taught to avoid mentioning the words commission, door to door, and in some cases even the company name. Recruiters. Truth. I thought "Wow this is cool, I do this door-to-door crap for a year or 2 and then I can pay other people to do it for me". You can create a path when you do these things. I routinely proof read my bosss documents before they go out the door. The OP didnt, but some of these comments are. And especially so when its held up for mockery by people clearly too privileged to recognize all the ways events can conspire to keep that little piece of paper out of reach. Just wanted to get this up One of her own people? Asking one of your peers to give your presentation a once-over for that kind of thing would be useful. What became a challenge was that the people I was able to recruit and bring in didn't have the same luxuries I did- they had more debt, kids, other bills. My sister was earning many more pounds than me while I was paying off my loans. One woman called him out on it as she had just bought her paper the day before- in response, this salesman of Cydcor for 3 years, was baffled as to what to do besides ask her twice to confirm that the cheaper price was not a special sale price. EVERY other applicant I ran into in my interviews was hired- except for a single mother with a family to support; I don't think he had the heart to roll the dice on ruining her life combined with the fact that at 30 years old she was potentially far too smart about how the world worked to be fooled by his sketchy puppet show. Uh, I dont think Tumblr is a legitimate source of career advice (and I say this as a former user). With the pandemic, if I were you, Id aggressively keep looking. No! My advice: Be completely aware of who and what you're applying for. Cydcor - The Honest Truth - scam. When looking for the root cause, I realized I usually made these mistakes because the analysis I did to get this number would often undergo a change after I initially created the slide. Especially one major tool named John who has his nose so far shoved up the owner's a*s. Have fun going door-to-door annoying the crap out of the honest business owners. I came to say this, too. Late to the party, but: OP2, what youre describing (obsessively checking for mistakes, missing them, then feeling like life is over when someone else notices) sounds a lot like what in my case turned out to be symptoms of a pretty debilitating anxiety disorder. If you had to put their name on your resume, Id tell you to get out today if you could do it without plunging yourself into crisis (i.e., if you have a safety net with your family). Also, its often an option to use the name more and the pronouns less, should you choose. Since gaps on a legal resume tend to be viewed worse than other places, Ive found most people list the 2 month job as anyone that sees it, knows why the person left and the gap is excused. But all of this is really a red herring. The consequence of NOT doing so is that Susan Smiths recommendation letter might be thrown away because nobody is in the (federally managed) application system under that name. Also, you might want to try an app like Hemingway or Grammarly. But make sure they know what youre asking them for when Im asked to look over a presentation for errors, I default to typos, grammar, and math. Concur on checklists! I then find out that Cydcor is linked with DS-MAX/Devilcorp; all part of the same genius pyramid scheme -- all equipped with different names to hide their devious plot. What Cydcor's scam businesses refer to as an "owner"he or she is the one actually running the businesses'/location's scam. I sold Worldbook and Childcraft door to door in 1981, made enough to pay for my kit and got lots of good exercise, but was glad to abandon that field to get a degree in accounting instead. Cydcor- a pyramid selling scheme with franchises across the country to hide its identity. The next one will be better and more precise. The only people I know who use it (and there are a lot of them) are all nonbinary. All these red flags so far, BUT I am tired of living with my parents and applying for jobs; it seemed like a Godsend to an impatient young recent college graduate second guessing his forte in science. Cydcor is home to team members who are energetic, dedicated, and driven. In most jobs you dont actually need it but it is required and the cost of it is insane. I think youve done this before but Im always a fan. Personally, I think if you can find literally anything more legitimate to pay the bills for now it will be better in the long run. I say this as someone with both an undergrad and grad degree: I feel its not worth it unless its really important to you OR you are really negatively impacted by it. and the one thing Ive learned is that it is nearly impossible to have a 100% perfect document, even if it is proofed by multiple people. 12. RED FLAG 1. It might not be completely necessary, but it did reassure me that this absolutely glowing letter of rec was for this particular applicant, explained why the students transcripts were for Bradley, etc. I had such a viscerally negative reaction, I got up and left in the middle of the interview literally while the guy was talking! When I first started, about 25 years ago, a degree was nice to have. +1000 for checklists. Our "Behaviors We Value" shape the way we work, serve clients, and interact with colleagues. This kind of thinking is exactly what led the people in OPs break room to laugh at their lack of degree. they would always reply Funny how we ended up in the same place yet I have 1/3rd the student debt.. DONATE NOW! That made it very difficult to explain why someone with my experience and qualifications was applying for administrative roles. I try not to burn bridges because if I want to change companies in the future I might have to work with a recruiter. Good luck. Were all ashamed of silly stuff; we should only change for a purpose. Sometimes it means Id prefer you use they but if youre so worried that youll screw up that you avoid talking about me altogether, he is all right too.. I wish I had saved the money and bought a house instead. The school still accepted me, and I went there! There are soooo many company locations under this umbrella. Im not interested in leaving my employer as I have a pretty sweet deal, but I wonder if Im doing the right thing by not responding. I have to be honest. :). What we want is for you to get married, the judge told her, according to her description. Between that and the day I left I tried to just keep going, keep myself sane by never going above and beyond for the firm and relishing my time at home for being somewhere the job couldnt follow. I have a close person, who is part of a pyramid scheme, but hasnt realized (or admitted) it yet. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. Now the administrator has done her job and the applicant has reached the office for an interview. our employee is taking nude photos in our office and posting them to Facebook, company says only moms can work at home, was I rude for turning down a carpool, and more, overreaching wellness meetings, rambling coworker monopolizing trainings, and more. I now have a job at a legal firm, and funnily enough, the interview I did for the scam job was way harder than the one I did for the law firm. Luckily I did spot the error at that point and while it is never a happy thing to make a change that large in galleys, it beats waiting till the thing is in print and unfixable. If youre on the same level as these people laughing about it, and you did it without the insane debt, I dont see any negative here. Anyways I go through the hiring process and I am aware at that point that it is in fact a door to door sales job, but they kept it just vague enough that I was still thinking there was some inside portion/management involved. Once youre out, Id check with your state labor commission website to see if thats legal. Speaking as a college professor, there are few of us who are unfamiliar with non-binary individuals. It was just an all-around bad situationdont let this be you. I figured that I was going to be separated amongst the group once the boss walked in -- think again. Is #1 the first time a writers company name was disclosed on this site? At this point, finishing his degree probably wouldnt help him at all. its maddening to realize you are doing this for 2 hours and not getting paid a dime for actual work, its a no no to actually walk into the office with a zero. No one implied that those with university degrees are smarter than others. LW#1 take any other job to tide you over while looking for something more permanent. But Cutco knives you can't buy online or at a store, Vemma energy drinks you can't buy online or at a store. Im honestly not sure even this would be an issue. I know this part in itself is off-topic and I hope it doesnt get deleted for being so, I just think it important for everyone discussing this or reading it in the future to keep in mind. So 1 or 2 would be fine. Its totally possible (and common) to be out in certain contexts and not in others, especially professionally or academically. In the counselors place, I would be more concerned that the letter was not properly attributed to Susan than than it made a brief and passing reference to Susans legal name (which the Admissions staff will already know about, as it is required on the application). Oh and I was actually fired. The recruitment process is what makes Cydcor a scam. This video contains dark stories about the abuses I went through. Run far away and never look back. Yes, HR will be calling resumes, interviewing etc. There is no work reason for your HR person to be sharing that information with random people in the break room. Since 1994, Cydcor, a leader in outsourced sales, has been helping Fortune 500 and emerging companies achieve their customer acquisition, retention, and business growth goals. I promise you, no future employer will look down on you for doing honest work to make ends meet during a time when everyone is struggling. If you feel that its going to limit your career options, maybe its something to consider but dont do it just if you wont get real benefit from it. If I read a cover letter or interviewed someone who said they worked there during the pandemic because they needed to, and learned a lot about what not to do, and got out as quickly as possible, I would be open to that explanation. I didnt want the information to be blabbed about because it had no bearing on anything. They should not have to spend their time and money getting a degree to shut down breakroom mockery nor to assuage a normal feeling of human insecurity it is a bit patronizing to assume that theyve not yet done so due to lack of confidence or lack of encouragement. Also, I hate that you were mocked for getting a degree in your 30s. I've done a lot of research on Multi -level Marketing schemes (pyramid schemes) and 99.99% of the time people end up losing money. I agree that the LW should reach out to student to see how they want to be addressed. So Im totally supportive of the OP and think that the HR reps move was a jerk move. I had been tricked into becoming a door-to-door salesman. The more you practice at it the more natural it will feel for your whole team. They tell you that you can work out a deal regarding the base pay, but that is NOT true. Even at Ivy adjacent kind of places, letters of rec are fairly far down the list on the list of reasons why you would or would not admit this person unless its coming from someone a building is named after/is on the board of trustees. I took my time finding a real job after that no matter if I needed money then and now. #3 speaking as an HR person myself, what yours is doing is wrong. At least thats what Im reading about. Think about this if you are sunk into Phoenix Solution AKA Cydcor.If you check many of these items, and particularly if you check most of them, you might consider examining the group more closely. Many offices go through the very same interview process each and every day by giving applicants false hope of what they are applying for. But assuming yes,Id just explain it the first time you name the student in the letter: Susan (who uses they pronouns) Thats it! Turns out thats a great way to emphasize that they really is for everyone and not just for trans people or (insert stereotype about snowflakes here). They control your life and money and everything before you know it. Bit offtopic: They would have my colleague go to the bank & get a cashiers check as opposed to using a check with the company name. I think it might be worth it to flag the name change, just briefly. Even little stuff, though the level of thoroughness varies depending on the context. I believe it man, there's a lot of stuff out there like this. Id only worry if that field was mandatory (according to the employer). I took the weekend to consider the "opportunity" I was presented with. Their output actually decreased as they struggled to find someone to replace my role who had a graduate degree, but the boss got his raise and bonus immediately. In my own case, I once missed a stupid error in a diagram that would have made me a laughingstock if it got into print until reviewing the galleys. Feel free to share your story on "Slave Circle" Youtube channel to spread awareness of the predatory nature of these MLMs! Many, many, many years ago when I was applying to college, I asked my favorite teacher to write one of my letters of recommendation. Months later I was working for a magazine and chatting with one of the advertising reps. A good place to work for GroupM being a leader in the Media business, it is one of the best places to work for and there are immense opportunities for one to learn and grow across platforms and mediums. (Im agender and use any pronouns in an I truly dont care sense, but I have multiple friends who transitioned away from any pronouns because they felt like people were just defaulting to the ones they were used to and denying their gender. Any suggestions on how to fix this? The group has a polarized, "we-they" mentality that causes conflict with the wider society. I had a friend who was sucked into a different MLM scam recently. Like, genuinely upset and annoyed that this sign said that they had a doctorate. I work in a job where accuracy matters and have the same problem. I ignored the email, but got a follow-up one from her today. But *Amaranth* was not talking about the gossip, but about the possibility that someone might notice that something is (apparently) out of whack with the salary ranges. Trying this + Alisons suggestion of stepping away from it for a time could make a big difference. They still didnt accept it, but their lack of acceptance was based on faith that top performers would happily stay an extra 2 years in the company with no salary increase. Me, I considered going back but like I said, the degree wouldnt have backed up my career (and would have been expensive). Beware of Cydcor and their little sister companies this "opportunity" is back handed and backwards. Fortunately, as OP is at the beginning of their working career, that helps. Thats an incredible story. In my search for a data analyst position I often see posts for analyst-type jobs in retail companies, analyzing marketing and sales data. You just use the pronouns. I imagine what questions would be asked, what parts would get more scrutiny, etc. Normally LWs do obfuscate, in which case its poor form to speculate, but if they say it themselves then, no reason to keep it secret. As others up thread have suggested, if you find that you are missing the same kind of error frequently it might help to make a checklist of everything you need to check and go about it a little more systematically. Thats all you are to them: a payday. The NYT has a kajillion copy editors and people make mistakes there as well. This organization seems to have a bad vibe online (pyramid scheme), but most reviews are US-based. Exactly. You could maybe say something like John, who goes by Susan, is a great student. It always goes to someone else for proofing. This is the first time I have encountered this and I want to respect my student and sell them in a good way in my letter without the impression Im talking about some other kid. What AAM said. Higher education needs to change. Rhinos have contempt for them.#9 True!#10 Going door to door. Thats the only reason I can think of to do such a thing, on the grand tours the CFO types like to tell the Vulture Capitalists how many Harvard / MIT / CalTech PhDs work there. That way if they are only using John for the application and you have Susan it wont be confusing. Get backup. I think its also time to document all of the times the HR manager has been less than confidential with information and has used her privileged position for gossip and maybe bring it to someone elses attention and how that could affect the company. Be proud of the work you do and how you got to where you are. I sold office supplies door to door on a commission only basis. If you think someone is trying to scam you, this is the place to ask about it. I walk in for my first day and find one girl I interviewed with who had colored hair, another guy who started at the beginning of that week who was heavy with a big beard and really quiet along with 4 others who were transfers. I work in quality. Whether or not to raise it with your manager depends on how often its happening. Yep. I send you all my good wishes. A family member of mine never finished his college degree. Educational information is a big thing, and its actually posted on both internal and external employee profiles. As it is, Im scared of losing this (inconsistent but always higher than minimum wage) paycheck, and Id like to use the promised HR experience to eventually transfer to a more legit company. IF AND ONLY IF the OP is thinking about doing this, they should really sit down and look an the options (tuition reimbursement from current company) and numbers (realistic return on investment). The boss made me feel special -- he made me feel like my professional resume, academic standard, and qualifications were a perfect fit for the job, and he claimed that he was searching for a Temple student to manage the office. Thank you for your time and advice. If its typos, I suggest making your peace with them, they are a fact of life. And I eventually ended up in a career completely unrelated to my degree anyhow (virology degree, work in IT). Im out with friends but not at work (if someone asked me directly I wouldnt lie, but Im not planning to come out), I want my references to use my AGAB pronouns. Stay if you need the dough, but try to switch if you can. also there will be unexplained "cancellations" on your checks so its even worse than you expect. Im not sure why (felt like flaunting? Somebody asked the identity of the employee for reasons of mirth and cruelty, I expect, not because it was pertinent. 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