MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. "Ah, that makes sense to me. NEIL WILLIAMS: Andalways incredible number one supportive of. NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that connection. But for theI mean those, I don't even consider it anymore, because those positions are allactually, who was it that was talking about, a few years back, when Rudy Turk was retiring from ASU. NEIL WILLIAMS: No, I'm justgood at that. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes, it was a draw for her. And I was able toevery good piece I've made since I was 14 I've sold. She was trying to strip it down to the essence of just being a power suit image and an image of power; a man in a suit, NEIL WILLIAMS: with a tie; a big man in a red suit, towering over you. [Laughs.] And I had a larger studio, and they said, "Do you do any workshops?" ", "Great member of the creative department, would highly recommend him, can write copy until his hands bleed and then some. Why should I believe them when they told me how good I am?" You know. *. NEIL WILLIAMS: I wasn't there, but I think that's whathe came in and out of consciousness; he said it was hard"There she is!" Elder Andersen referenced the talk given by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and Sister Patricia Holland a week ago during the Worldwide Devotional for Young Adults about hope. NEIL WILLIAMS: Boy, I don't have it. He relates a really great story that exemplifies this. He's been really a wonderful, positive impact in my life. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. And Elmer was a fantastic painter but heit was real interesting because I was really young and didn't know a lot, but I knew he was an important painter, professor at U.C. Format: Originally recorded as 5 sound files.Duration is 4 hr., 9 min. So, I have just been surviving since on some commercial production line, and however else and whatever elsesome teaching and whatever else I need to do in order to makekeep making the work. Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: But Marjorie was a character. Every time I'd call or he'd call, I'd say, "Where are you going?" Racing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. Uh-huh. And you can keep records on it. MIJA RIEDEL: Clay seemed a way for her to channel experience that was personal, but not necessarily make the piece be self-referential. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because if I get frustrated working, or if I getit's not going right, that piece isn't going to happen, especially at critical points. I mean, how many artistslooking back and they're still talking and writing about? Depends on the instructor. They are altered, deconstructed, or shifted into different sections and reattached. They weren't directly involved with contributing to the production of her work. AndI mean I can't imagineI saw itthe stress of having to come up with newness and having the eyes on you, and you do something and they'd write a book on you. This interview is part of the Archives of American Art Oral History Program, started in 1958 to document the history of the visual arts in the United States, primarily through interviews with artists, historians, dealers, critics and administrators. So she tookif that ever came up, it was fuel for her, too. I'll run through the periodicals and check the magazines or check the books and see what everyone else is doing. I said, "What is that?" This site uses different types of cookies. What's your diet? It's primordial, it's playful. Maybe if you would walk me through how the work comes about. And I said "My mother never drew a nude." MIJA RIEDEL: There was a Spark episode that was about Viola. I'm certainly not immune to it. . 0000004841 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: And Arlene LewAllen was the best. And so I, NEIL WILLIAMS: I do. MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah, we'll deal with that story [later MR]. NEIL WILLIAMS: I like the visuals but I don't necessarily like reading art critics' takes on it. The French philosopher talked about lan vital, the vital energy. I just hope they say I've made nice stuff, and it holds up over time. There can bethey can get really good quality if you get connected with the right person. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there was a friend who had gotten several pairs and she called them "The Keys of Life," and my concept was in the paintedthe straight line painted ones. MIJA RIEDEL: We were talking about episodes or periods of work. NEIL WILLIAMS: Although they were pastel until fired, there's a certain projection you had to do and prediction. [. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, I used toI found a note crumpled upor stepped on, on the floor of her truck. Uh-uh. Sam [Perry] definitely was an angel. MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking about the difference between going to the studio to make your own work and, NEIL WILLIAMS: I've done a lot of work on the class, NEIL WILLIAMS: but as far as, some of them, MIJA RIEDEL: How does that affect the process? NEIL WILLIAMS: And we all have our angels but, you know, Viola had hers. An amazing colorist. It's overwhelming. But, she did it in a very celebratory way. A Professional theme for architects, construction and interior designers We have in some ways,,there's a lot of things that are new and there's a great acceleration of information systems and possibilities of technology. Was it discerning, or was it more just grabbing a range of things? NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yeah, I was there when he first came to her home and studio, yeah. Elder Andersen assured students, If you are determined to be a disciple of Jesus Christ all the days of your life, you will be, and you will have remarkable blessings that will be yours.. It's like, "Oh, my God, I can't believe that there was human beings even thinking this way back then." Well, we'll see. I never saw a sign of that. MIJA RIEDEL: and the evolution of the bronzes. MIJA RIEDEL: Absolutely. MIJA RIEDEL: Interesting. NEIL WILLIAMS: with their own work. Neils older brothers, Gary and Lee, became chef and chief barman there. NEIL WILLIAMS: I saw what she was doing, and I got a sense quickly of her rhythm and how she produced groups and clusters of work. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because you want to take that experience into the next one, and you don't want to be hung up by it. I mean, he's the one who talked about diachronic and synchronic time. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, I went down there and my brother was living in Berkley. 0000114923 00000 n I had no idea, so I raced down there and, "Yeah it's in a book, too." So that's whatyou know, you stay in complete embrace with it, you make something, paint something, you spill your soul to it, whatever it takes, and then you have to let go. And they likethen there was this huddle. And she hadof course, she said "ideas are 10 years ahead of execution sometimes," and shewas jumping ahead, and then jumping back and, NEIL WILLIAMS: you know. She would roll out long lines of this paste and use them as, literally, as drawn lines. That might fit into some selfish aspect of it too, which maybe Cheri was touching on last night with Viola, but good artists have to beI don'tmaybe I'm not selfish enough to be a great artist, I don't know. I got to back out and work for her, orbut he washe was ahe was a treat. There's an elderly woman, Marjorie Blodget, who is the head librarian and a wonderful old San Francisco socialite, socialist[laughs]who, very mouthy, very verbal. But it's funny because even Huell Howser, when he came through Auburn to do one of his, AmeriCalifornia specials? She used to work there in the summers, she liked being around the students. [Affirmative.] It naturally evokes those, because it's so hands-on, it's so tactile. MIJA RIEDEL: [. Analytics cookies help website owners to understand how visitors interact with websites by collecting and reporting information anonymously. 0000114555 00000 n I also think the simplicity of being able to do that because I know they were so physically demanding. So, I mean, I can go five minutes down here and be in beautiful nature surroundings. And he had experience in Japan. And then the content would be the sum of the above. Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? I thought, "Okay." Because I had been back up here, but I would go back to help. I just wanted a couple of specifics. NEIL WILLIAMS: Okay. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, to see what was done and then you look at the dates on some of those things. Her mother was a dancer and used to tour with Arthur Murray in that era. It's not ephemeralit worked in a very. And it's just like dealing with any person's life, if they're elderly or if they're passing young. NEIL WILLIAMS: That's mine. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: That's one thingthat's one thing that I realized that I do well issince I was 14, is I was able to throw very well. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. But. And, I would get up and I would go out and leave my keys sitting on the table, that kind of stuff. MIJA RIEDEL: Right, because you were there in the studio working side by side so frequently that you could follow those fragments of thought. NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that; we got a kick out of that. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was a nice transition for her to go into her next phase tobut I was really pleased to be able to help her in that. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh my God, right herethat's a whole other disc I think. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. MR] When I talked to [Rena MR], she said she would oftenif she felt that that was important to an artist. That kind of thing? There's a calling here that is just going to be-I knew it was going to be interesting, and I knew it was going tomy sense was it could get crazy at times, but it was manageable. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, there you go. So, nothing came to you in terms of a new thought, or a new perspective, ornow I'll approach it from a slightly different angle today? They got increasingly deep andI can't think of the word I'm looking for right now. They are sanded to eliminate throwing lines on the exterior, so there's the contour lines and the surface is homogenized. NEIL WILLIAMS: I wish I never knew, we were justCheri was just perusing the thing, the inventory, and she said, "Do you know you're in the Smithsonian collection?" There were people helping along the line. WebNeil Williams is a creative director with over 20 years of experience, creating award-winning multi-platform campaigns for some of the worlds leading brands. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, with a great deep love of art history throughout every culture. NEIL WILLIAMS: so she worked fluidly if we had 10 or a dozen going in molds. But there was also something veryresolved about it too. NEIL WILLIAMS: Like I said, she was very asexual, NEIL WILLIAMS: like he was, too. The power and blessings of the priesthood, including those found in the temple, are essential. Andwriters, there are so many of them, there are so many good ones. Jointly published by the Deseret News and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its content supports the doctrines, principles and practices of the Church. So, hewas really supportive of the arts and creativity. I get that." She would sell what I gave hereverything I gave her and she would pay on time. And that's really a shame, and that's probably two-fold. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there are a few out there. And it was also, like I was trying to get at filling theimage filling the gap between the thought and the spoken word. I mean he'd chew you a new one if you did something wrong that he didn't agree with, or you were in his space at the wrong time, like trying to photograph when she set up a photography session in her living room when he was trying to have dinner and it interruptedI mean, there was some toilet lid slamming going on there. But I also think that the pressure to produce and the pressure to produce large monumental-scale pieces, colossal pieceswhen everyone was around her saying, "Oh my gosh. And what was your dad's name? NEIL WILLIAMS: He said it was hysterical. NEIL WILLIAMS: And there also reached the point where Lee was saying, "You know, Elmer, these new paintings areas long as Elmer loves them." And he had a really interesting background himself,, being an architect historian, ceramic historian, writer, and friends with the people he knew. They're one in a million, in the arts. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, it's like Picasso said, it took him what, sixty years to learn to draw like a child again? He says, "It's going to work.". She would have never thought there was anything wrong with them. NEIL WILLIAMS: when I wasand I saw them asalmost like roommates and artists who were sharing space and enriching each others' lives. I mean, come on. MIJA RIEDEL: Now which two are you talking about? NEIL WILLIAMS: Absolutely, and he was a magnificent, generous source of information. They're almost like not markers. Going to church, continuing to take the sacrament, to find ways to serve others, to be around others, to bear your testimony, those are all ways you can be firmly planted within the flame of the gospel so that you are burning bright, Johnson said. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, but not necessarily for publishing. NEIL WILLIAMS: No, I've been really lucky. It's like another great thing I learned that I certainly borrowed from biology, talked about clay and mark making, and how making marks in clay, you're starting to develop your own vocabulary by doing that. No, it's really like, how do we celebrate our lives? It's been a fabulous place to land for as long as it lasts. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. Brown, oldyou know, '60s work. NEIL WILLIAMS: A lot of it being nurtured ironically by the local high school art faculty department. University systems, they certainly have their place. NEIL WILLIAMS: Loughlin, Noel. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: And luckily I wentgot connected with her, and not some other instructor at the time who could have impacted it elsewhere, because they would have said, "Ah"so many of them would say, "Ah, the vessel. NEIL WILLIAMS: It depends. 0000112045 00000 n I know you said you don't normally do commissions, and you don't like them, and there are multiple reasons for that, but you did do one in 1986 for the LA County Museum? N-O-E-L, L-O-U-G-H-L-I-N. NEIL WILLIAMS: It's been 40, 40-plus-year friendship. NEIL WILLIAMS: I try and keep themwell the first few years they were a straight line, andbut I try and keep them recognizable. Milking the cows morning and night, I realized how much I needed to get an education, Elder Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles recalled during a Brigham Young University devotional on Tuesday, Jan. 17. NEIL WILLIAMS: Completely positive, radiant. It's like Viola would say, "Look down the street, it's just if you took away all the trees there would be no harmony." Like even when I do production work, or picturing other pieces I'd like to explore. And I was talking about being young and feeling the pressure of having tomy work should say something more politically and socially significant and I was a little frustrated by that. Tweets & replies. NEIL WILLIAMS: In the later ones, especially the reclining ones. I always thought it was a resource, but Ihad a lot of private students. She was a member of the Sacramento Symphony. NEIL WILLIAMS: Ah, there's the hidden gem right there. MIJA RIEDEL: Since we're talking about Rena and Dorothy Weiss, why don't we answer these questions about exhibitions, and your relationships with dealers over the years? Could you say anything about how they connected? They were saying, of the 35,000 art students that graduate from art-related colleges in institutions in America every year, within two years, 77 percent aren't even doing anything with their work. Isome of them you don't even meet. What is important to you to try and bring to the classes or workshops that you teach? She was a little nervous of whether she was going to have that kind of aand I said, "Absolutely, we wouldn't miss it." But I know he really fed her a lot of reinforcement in what she was doing. NEIL WILLIAMS: there. It's like the sameto me, it has a direct link to the chemical in our hearts that cause it, our cells to beat. Create your account , it takes less than a minute, Dont let the game play you; gamble responsibly. "No, art is about art!" It's all pretty simple. He was going to donate fantastic paintings, and it's like, "Well, but you have Motherwell's all over the place in storage." It's not that kind of work I do. MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm curious, when you say "spiritually, it fulfilled self-respect." Victor Building Developer of the H.A.L.T. NEIL WILLIAMS: because it brought in painting and color concerns, which I had no experience in. [Laughs.] Because I was 2D at the time. MIJA RIEDEL: And what would you bring to those classes? The second piece, you don't care what the outcome is. And then multiple layers of color. MIJA RIEDEL: And they're commercial glazes? NEIL WILLIAMS: she found it there because of her estrangement from her own family I'm sure contributed to that, unfortunately. I remember one of the great stories about that, about making so much work wasoh my God, when she had an open party, like a little dinner party and Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel Neri had come and a bunch of other people, and Rena Bransten, and, of course, who luckily was repping her by then, NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, because I just think it wasI just think the world of Rena and I. NEIL WILLIAMS: But isn't that the case with so many great artists in history? 0000013392 00000 n Or I'll say whyI don't understand what all the fuss was about; certain artists and certain aspects of work, soI realized I could drive myself crazy off of thinking about that. 1:00 p.m.4:00 p.m. I remember the first day I was there, I met a woman from Beirut. I'm not, because I know my work is good. NEIL WILLIAMS: Not if I can help it anymore. [Laughs.] MIJA RIEDEL: I remember reading that it was important to her that some of the characterssome of the sculptures, the figures feel slightly menacing. 0000053369 00000 n And, for some reason, I always knew what the thing was. Okay. NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: Of course you do a lot ofin your studies oryou're going to work on flat pieces from now and then, but mostly all in the round. You have to be in complete embrace with it. startxref [Affirmative.] Fitting together. . His real name is Foster Heinz, but everyone calls him Tex. MIJA RIEDEL: I can really see Gorky, in particular. You know, it's like, "Personal experience!" This is an old photo thing we found cleaning up, of just old pots that I was. The reader should bear in mind that they are reading a transcript of spoken, rather than written, prose. NEIL WILLIAMS: She just took onshe expanded the meaning, but as far as her liking to be around and findingfamilies, so to speak, in a clay environment. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, she didn't press her to make a certain line of work. There was a certain suggestion and guidance, kind of, or a guidance through suggestion. NEIL WILLIAMS: That'syeah that's just it. MIJA RIEDEL: and yours have a little bit of that sensibility. [Trials] just come, Elder Andersen said. Similarity in that it staysI stay engaged with it, and I'm not losing interest. Agree Sporty, what a loss N Williams was mate, when he was riding IN Brissy. But I feel like people who go to the prophets, they go to other people of faith, and that can end up strengthening their faith when they feel like theyre slipping., For Macee Pickup, social media can also be a tool for good as she tries to fill her feed with uplifting quotes and insights or share messages with people, she said. This cut here. 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