Between when the article came out and the plane crash, Lundeen's papers show he received a letter from the German agent telling him to not worry about the press being onto them. Actually, it was flyable, but windy with rough seas. The Navy immediately scrambled search planes to hunt for the missing patrol. Some of the passengers were locked in a struggle of some kind. Oct. 10, 2022, 3:15 AM PDT Transcript Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra Episode 1: Trip 19 It started with a plane crash. At that, the flight leader stepped in and took over the navigation. Hart: When American troops are actually in combat, virtually every member of Congress, every politician sort of makes a show of supporting the troops and even goes over to visit the trenches of the Western front and things like that. Have on emergency IFF. For the Gulf Sea Frontier, there are the Unclassified Correspondence, 1940-1946 and Formerly Security Classified Correspondence, 1940-1946, which are arranged using the Navy Filing Manual, so the suggested filing designations are a good place to start. comments: FT-74 was already airborne and thereafter he flew south. Maddow: Even decades after the fact, eyewitnesses to the crash were just haunted by what they saw that day. There is some evidence that the Mariner may have exploded in mid-air because there were reports from vessels at sea near the Mariners patrol area saying they saw a fireball approximately around the time another ship lost RADAR contact with the plane. That speech had been ghost-written for Senator Lundeen. "I'm over land, but it's broken. Then on Monday, on Labor Day, he's got a big speech that he's planning to deliver. Just 20 minutes later, however, one of them seemed to follow Flight 19s lead by suddenly vanishing off radar. The amount of fuel left based on that location and airspeed. They just vanished, Navy Lieutenant David White later recalled. And so you have to scratch your head. What is your altitude? (Ed. Clocks are a simple navigational requirement. . The Avenger was designed by General Motors for strikes on ships, using aerial torpedoes. Maddow: The evidence of human loss across the hundreds of yards of the debris field from the crash, it was just devastating. 00 00 02 19 CC We confirm inboard cut-off. In the Casualty Assistance Branch Ships, Stations, Units, And Incidents Casualty Information Records in the Records of the Bureau of Naval Personnel (Record Group 24), there are casualty reports filed under NAS Fort Lauderdale (Box 109) and under NAS Banana River (Box 108). He's due to fly that day to Pittsburgh. Ghost-written by a senior, paid agent of Hitler's government operating in America, a man to whom Senator Lundeen had grown very close. There was no evidence that the plane had been struck by lightning. Now two aviation sleuths, who have spent more than 25 years trying to crack the case, have a compelling new theory: They believe that a torpedo bomber discovered in western Broward County in 1989 . The sudden, tragic nature of Lundeens death was just shocking to the whole Congress, to all of Washington. When he ran for re-election after his first term, they voted him out. There's a storm rolling in, but the flight is cleared for takeoff after a slight delay. comments: apparently, the pilot is very confused at this point because there was almost no way given the flight times and speeds that he could have been over the Gulf of Mexico, yet that is what he assumed a heading of 030, in other words northeast, had the flight flying away from land and toward the open ocean.). No explanation. Sound design by Tarek Fouda. By. In fact, the senator's secretary herself had reportedly witnessed something along those same lines. And they didn't just run him out of Congress, they ran him out of town on a rail. Boston Sector: American 11, Boston Center, roger, climb, maintain level two eight zero. Maddow: A newspaper called PM had published an expos describing a scheme in which sitting members of Congress were helping an agent of Hitler's government distribute German propaganda in quantity all over the United States. Renace Painter: It was terrible. But the Senator did have reason to be concerned while he was on the plane that day. He, he sort of refuses to support the war effort. Hart: When the FBI agents who are sent to the scene recover his body, they find a draft of the speech that he was going to give just a few days later. And it looked to her like her boss, Senator Lundeen, might have even been among the people involved in that struggle, but she couldn't be entirely sure. Informative and well-written article, well done. Apollo 13 Transcripts . Steven J. Ross: They dont call themselves right-wing fanatics. Flannery: When I spoke to them, it was clear as a bell. ), FT-74: put the sun on your port wing if you are in the Keys and fly up the coast until you get to Miami. But there was a passenger manifest from the airline. Just a few months after he lost his seat in Congress. comments: There was no response but additional radio communications were overheard as the flight leader, FT-28, asked the other aircraft in Flight 19 for ideas. This confirms Flight 19s report of completing the bomb drop. Maddow: Thats historian Bradley Hart, whos studied and written about Lundeens tenure in Congress. What most people do not know is that Senator Lundeen was under investigation at the time of his death., A G-Man [meaning an FBI agent], a Department of Justice attorney, and an FBI secretary were on the plane with him, and all were killed., The Department of Justice probably will deny that they were shadowing the Minnesota Senator, but the fact is that at least one of them definitely was.". Maddow: Senator Lundeen knew from experience that his stance against the U.S. joining the war in Europe might be politically unpopular. Because two weeks before he got on that plane, he suddenly found himself the apparent subject of a blockbuster newspaper expos. Records of the Lost: Looking at the Records of Flight 19, Records Relating to World War II War Crimes in Europe in the Records of United States Army, Europe (Record Group 549), Muster Rolls, Rosters, Morning Reports, and Personnel Diaries, Records Relating to World War II War Crimes in Europe in the Records of the Office of the Judge Advocate General (Army) (Record Group 153), Records of the United States Military Tribunals, Nuremberg in the National Archives Collection of World War II War Crimes Records (Record Group 238), Records of the International Military Tribunal (IMT) at Nuremberg in the National Archives Collection of World War II War Crimes Records (Record Group 238), Holocaust-Era Art Provenance and Claims Records and Research at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), The Vietnam War: Digitized Historical Resources. It's kind of creepy to hold, right, because you realize what that document, you know, went through. Senator, gone in an instant. One of the SAR aircraft reported the weather after the flight: the ceiling was approximately 800 to 1200 feet overcast, occasional showers, estimated wind, west southwest about 25 30 knots. Telling him the whole thing was, quote, "a witch hunt". Where would it have most likely gone down? And he didn't just keep it for a day, he kept it the whole rest of his life. I just dont want to take this one out, he supposedly said. He and his secretary leave the Capitol building. Click Below to Listen to Excerpts This audio is excerpted from several controllers over . There had been 25 people on board that plane, including the crew. Over. That one term he served in Congress back in 1917, it was a political disaster. He's got his head down on his desk, his head is buried in his arms. Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot: The Case of the Careless Client. Hart: They're both trying to figure out how much reporters have found out about what's going on. But more importantly, Kusche looked into who Charles Taylor was. Desiderio: When we talk about the DOJs response after the crash, in addition to saying those agents were on the plane by coincidence, they also deny that Lundeen was under investigation at all. This was crusading, controversial columnist Drew Pearson. He still had the itch for elected office. Finally, the flight leader wasnt doing the navigating, but rather the students were flying the route prescribed estimating time and distance while holding the prescribed headings. A reporter for the Winchester Evening Star in Virginia filed a story from the crash scene that day for the Associated Press. The weather was good but the sea state was bordering on rough. The full episode transcript for Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra | Episode 1: Trip 19. . Apollo 11 reads you loud and clear. This is the transcript released today of cockpit and radio communications from US Airways Flight 1549, which landed in the Hudson River on Jan. 15 after striking a flock of geese. This is the NBC newsroom in New York. . We didnt go far enough east, he said, still worried that he might be in the Gulf. Maddow: Thats John Flannery. We have a flight plan update for you and some P37 block data, if you're ready to copy. Perhaps the trainees hadnt made a mistake after all. The microfilmed series is a collection of materials that was eventually used in the Navys Board of Investigation including weather observations, the history of the aircraft and engine logs, a rough crash log, radio station logs, preflight forms, communication logs, incident reports, air/sea rescue plans, maps of the search area. Enemy ships were able to avoid ship-to-ship torpedoes which only travelled at about 32 knots (59 km/h) underwater. But he still wanted more. It didnt mention anything about the Bermuda Triangle, that is a big mistake!! These files include correspondence from the Casualty Assistance Branch regarding the circumstances of the losses and any legal changes to their status. He knows which windy country roads to take in order to find it. Maddow: Lundeen's political career had a bit of a bumpy start. And Senator Lundeen is at work, even though it's Labor Day Weekend. Our Web Producer is Will Femia. Flight 232 radio transcript Jul 13, 2014 Updated Jul 15, 2014 0 1 of 2 The wreckage of Flight 232 sits at Sioux Gateway Airport in July 1989. That denial from the Justice Department, as emphatic as it was, it didnt hold up. ", "Whether certain foreign agents figured that they were about to be exposed, whether G-men on the plane tangled with Lundeen in flight, or whether it was an act of God-and-the-weather may never be known.". In a plane crash that, from the very start, was a real mystery. The general weather conditions were considered average for training flights of this nature, except within showers. Flight 19 Disappearance: 5 December 1945, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He voted no to the U.S. joining the Great War. It began as nothing more than a routine training flight. Following is a transcript of the radio communications between air traffic controller at Logan International Airport [46R] in Boston and several jetliners identified by their call signs on the. Im coming to meet you anyhow., FT-28: We have just passed over a small island. Our Associate Producer is Janmaris Perez. Lundeen doesn't do any of these things. Both my compasses are out and Im trying to find Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, Taylor said, his voice sounding anxious. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. In addition to the records at the National Archives in College Park, there may be other relevant records relating to Flight 19 that were created by local naval air stations and the regional naval district. A short of list of select filing designations are A17-9 (Naval Courts and Boards), A17-24 (Court of Inquiry), A17-25 (Board of Investigations), L11-1 (Material Loss), the different aircraft types, VTBM1 and VPBM5, and the different naval air stations NA29 - Jacksonville NAS, NA59 - Cocoa and Banana River NAS, and NA106 - Fort Lauderdale NAS. Do some more research. High Flight the Untold Story of Aviations Greatest Poem, Crisis in Space MiG Mad Marine, John Glenn and Friendship 7, The Red Stuff the Soviet Chuck Yeager Revealed. The PBM Mariners 13 man crew were all killed in the inflight explosion. And I ran across this one, walking around, and it was just from the middle of her stomach, her head and everything, that was it. Oct. 16, 2001. It was one of the worst things I ever looked at. Its members eventually attributed the loss to causes or reasons unknown.. Maddow: Lundeen's constituents back home in Minnesota were also pretty peeved with him at the time. Senator Ernest Lundeen quickly became one of the loudest and most confident voices inveighing against the U.S. joining the fight. The transcript shows Malaysian air traffic control first bidding MH370 "good night", as it instructs the pilots next to contact controllers in Vietnam, over which the plane was due to fly. The sea was very rough., In that massive efforts with planes scouring the seas in close coordination one more plane was lost, a PBM-5 Mariner, with call sign Buno 59225. In any case, the Bahamas and the Keys look a lot alike from the air and most likely he was somewhere near Great Sale Cay, which was on his intended course i.e., nowhere near the Florida Keys. It was a terrible loss, but one with a clear explanation. February 5, 2009 10:19 am. Is that an argument? Lundeen very clearly starts sweating about this, this sort of relationship. Flight 19 was a squadron of five TBM Avengers: a single engine aircraft manned by three crew (pilot, turret gunner and radioman/bombardier). The flights leader was Lieutenant Charles C. Taylor, an experienced pilot and veteran of several combat missions in World War IIs Pacific Theater. Shares. Incredibly, despite achieving a reasonable radio fix, somehow that information was not relayed to Flight 19. Something is wrong. This is a story about politics at the edge. Violence against government targets. He's crying. Second, the flight was late in taking off because the instructor ran late. Young: as a way to end Lundeen's life unnaturally. 2: They were supposed go out into the sea towards East for 56 nautical miles to reach point 2 (Hen and Chickens shoals) and drop practice bombs until around 15:00. in the Records of the Bureau of Naval Personnel (Record Group 24), there are casualty reports filed under NAS Fort Lauderdale (Box 109) and under NAS Banana River (Box 108). The remains of the Mariner and its 13 crewmen were never recovered, but its commonly believed that the seaplane exploded shortly after takeoff. He says, quote, "Justice Department agents were attempting to find out the extent to which Berlin was definitely hooked up with any members of [Congress] when Lundeen's plane crashed. You have a 30- to 35-knot head or crosswind. In other words, within 100 miles of a point that is essentially 120 miles due east of Daytona Beach. NBC Radio Anchor: In Washington, the flags are at half staff today. Apollo 13 Technical Air-to-Ground Transcript Raw PDF document courtesy Stephen Garber (NASA HQ) and Glen Swanson (JSC) ( 21 Mb PDF) Plain Text Format by Heiko Kueffen ( 1 Mb txt) This is the raw transcript provided by NASA to the press during the mission. There is no plaque, there is no marker designating it as the site of a deadly plane crash. Most had about 60 hours in type and 300 hours total time overall. Senator Ernest Lundeen reported killed today in the crash of a Pennsylvania Central Airlines plane. Flannery: Mr. Painter's older brother walked into the field and he saw teeth and there was a gold tooth in there and he threw it at the ground and broke out the gold tooth and he kept it. The squadron (collectively called Flight 19) was led by Lieutenant Charles Taylor, who had logged over . For the next hour, the flight apparently flew back toward Florida directly into the teeth of a strong headwind. Im over land, but its broken. He said it was signed by the lone flight attendant on board. Incorrectly, the popular lore regarding the disappearance of Flight 19 claims otherwise. As we consider the event, it is best to remember that the ill-fated members of Flight 19 were all quite green as pilots and flight crews. e-mail; 2.7k. Maddow: Sitting Senators just dont drop dead on a regular basis. My e-mail is: dennisporter10@yahoo.com. The records of the 7th Naval District (Florida) and the naval air stations that were involved in the incident are in the custody of the National Archives at Atlanta. Reason? Ft. Lauderdale (paraphrased): Change radio frequency to 3000 kc, the search and rescue frequency. In the 1960s and 70s, pulp magazines and writers such as Vincent Gaddis and Charles Berlitz helped popularize the idea that Flight 19 had been gobbled up by the Bermuda Triangle, a section of the Atlantic supposedly known for its high volume of freak disappearances and mechanical failures. Apollo 11, Houston. 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